I don't think it's flow as much as "doubles-oriented" stuff. Traditional grip players, for whatever reason, seem to play more doubles. Personally, I just dig that style of playing more. Plus, it looks cool.
yes.
I don't think it's flow as much as "doubles-oriented" stuff. Traditional grip players, for whatever reason, seem to play more doubles. Personally, I just dig that style of playing more. Plus, it looks cool.
I'm with you Dazzler.
Use BOTH if you need to, any grip needs to be comfortable for the particular musical siutation your'e faced with.
My old teacher suggested to use both grips for the sake of feel rather than pure mechanics. besides, traditional grip is purely for the drum set...what else do you use it for? Percussion instruments are usually played with matched grip in most cases...
If we could truly somehow quantify and establish the best grip, flow, groove etc. etc. And we all tried to emulate that...we'd all sound the same. There would be no more individual voices in music. Creativity would die.
So, maybe we should try to enjoy the differences instead of lining them up in some sort of rank order scheme.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ April 06, 2004 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Andy Vermiglio ]</font>
I asked this same question about 4 months ago. I was looking for something and did not know what it was until I switched to trad. grip. I started on matched and have been playing that way until last year. I think being able to do BOTH is an asset. There are certain grooves I do that only sound good usnig matched or for big endings using "singles" I hear ya Steve. But everything else is pretty much trad grip. The debate between these two grips are about as controversial as "Roe vs Wade". It's this simple......... I think in order to get a full comprhention of drums you should try using both. I don't think I would have a strong back beat unless I had played it "matched" first.
Does anyone know which grip Vinnie used on Secrets?
I?m a matched player who would like to be better at trad.
I started and was taught matched. When I was seeing guys playing trad I thought: ?Poor of them, they fell on old fart teachers who are not aware of the new modern techniques?. But when I went to Drummers Collective (in the middle of the Weckl craze), I was in shock when I saw all these young guys my age in the lobby playing trad on practice pads while straring at the 1st Weckl videos or BRMSC tape 2. I must say that just a few were good at it. Also ALL the teachers played trad. I thought, hey maybe I missed something. I was encouraged to start to also play trad to add to my overall control and was told I could only benefit from it. So for the time I was there, I shed mostly trad. I remember Kim Plainfield singing the praise of trad grip, surprisingly not in terms of doubles or ghosting, but in terms of the trad backbeat sound. He said there was something special he liked in the sound of a strong trad rimshot backbeat as it produced the perfect combination of fat versus attack for him. He played it both ways and made us listen to recordings of trad vs matched players focusing on the backbeat. I have to agree, there?s a difference. I can?t really explain why but trad backbeats tend to sound better (ex.: I really like Vinnie and Dave?s backbeats)
After DC, I continued my studies in classical percussion, and since everything else was matched, I decided to refocus on matched. Today when I play swing, my left hand just unconsciously turns to trad. I?m always having to turn it back to matched cause I can't pull out all my ideas if I stay trad.
I also feel that my left shoulder is more relaxed in the trad position, and this position triggers different things: The stick just wants to bounce in doubles and ghost, more than when I?m matched. I wish I had continued to developed trad. Now I feel that I don?t have anymore the kind of time that I would need to bring it to a decent level... [img]frown.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ April 12, 2004 08:47 PM: Message edited by: Tombo 7/4 ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">great point.Originally posted by Tombo 7/4:
I also feel that my left shoulder is more relaxed in the trad position, and this position triggers different things: The stick just wants to bounce in doubles and ghost, more than when I?m matched.
Hey nasti,
It's all good... Traditional grip came from marching and matched grip came from traps. Both grips are historically proven and can be applied in most any situation.
Since you are kinda new to drumming (3yrs) I would suggest staying with what you feel
comfortable with NOW and spend the time to master it.
A good fundamental grip helps prevent injuries and bad habits are easy to pick up with a bad grip, so if you are inclined, spending some time with a good teacher working on your grip could be the best thing you'll ever do.
I use both grips. I like using matched for groove and back beat stuff and I like using trad for
shuffles, swing or two hand stuff.
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